In response to Stewart "Stu" Pada's message:

RE: question
I didnt hear about it. who was it?

In response to halo's message:

RE: question
that is what i heard. so sad. i think he was an only child, correct? although i feel very bad for his parents, i have been told he was spoiled and indulged his whole life. too much money and no responsibilities.

In response to dunbar chickie's message:

RE: question
he over dosed

In response to halo's message:

question
has anyone heard the cause of death of a young man from a prominent dunbar family last weekend?

In response to grd's message:

RE: Looking for information
I am jumping in here. I have been reading the posts about Betty Knox. Over the years the story has changed. I've researched it a little and from early newspapers, etc., I found that Betty's soldier was her husband ( although I have doubts they actually were ever married) a deserter from the British Army. He was from Virginia and ended up in Greenbriar with Betty. He hid in the woods until George Washington was elected President and then became a pillar of the community and came out of hiding. The reason Betty drove the oxen was because he had to stay hidden in fear of being found by the British. He cleared the land for the farm and raised corn and hogs. It is true that the skeleton of the oxen was found tied to a tree at what is now called Betty Knox Park but the events actually took place a hundred years before. It was in 1878 that Betty's trips stopped. You can refer to the Daily Courier Aug 9, 1919, page 1 and July 27, 1921 for info. In 1932, a man by the name of William Forrest, from Somerset, KY wrote the story again and claimed he was their kin but in researching the story further, I am thinking he went forward about 100 years to make the story fit into his family. Since that writing, the newer dates have been used. Tucker Run is supposed to run through the home place and some refer to the area as Tucker Valley but the newspaper claims it was in Greenbriar. Oliver Martin of near Rippling Water retold the story using the 1800 dates too but I can't remember what year I found his article in the newspaper. Earlier papers state it was during the Revolutionary War 1775 - 1783. George Washington was elected President in 1789.

In response to Wondering's message:

RE: larry bartholow
now thats funny......Hope you buy lots of dope with my stuff...dirt ball

In response to larry's message:

RE: larry bartholow
Yes i do. your the guy that had his copper stolen. dummy

In response to wondering's message:

RE: larry bartholow
you don't even know who I am dummy....

In response to larry's message:

RE: larry bartholow
yep your rite. i got it from you. do you want to buy it back. if so how much will you give me for it.

In response to wondering's message:

RE: larry bartholow
Where did Larry steal this copper from? I have had some stolen from me and need it back $$$$$ for info.

In response to Mo's message:

RE: larry bartholow
Larry, You, as usual, have opened a can of worms by being so "knuckleheaded"/stupid to put your comments out for public view. It's one thing to have people say you're stupid but to prove it---not smart! Yes this is a great country but not because of anything you've done. If you like to fight - join the Army - they're hiring! You could 'grow' up & make something of yourself, in there. You 1st. say "**** anyone" that doesn't like you. Most don't believe you have one let alone a whole towns worth of **** in you. 2nd., people in wheelchairs are not helpless, nor are you buth they have enough responsibility to do as much as they can, inspite of their challanges. What's your excuse for being such a looser?? Nobodys falt but your own! You can't get along with anyone for long. Quit thinking "ME". You complain about one of your 'x' neighbors, that you gave 'work' to - that you should have done. Funny you should nark out a neighbor when you had reefer plants growing in your yard and house. You point out others situations and ignore your own. So typical. You're OK/ everyone else is screwed up !! ??? right. not / You talk about respect!!!! Let's go to 'K's house and look at the "respect"!!! The house if full of feces, garbage, old clothing, holes in the walls, totally filtlhy & infested. Actually it's so bad that the SPCA had to take your abandoned dogs away. The health dept. has condemmed it! Tell us again how you took care of your animals. Tell us how you respected your neighbors, they all tried to help you out in one way or the other at first, untill your turned them off. Some you still owe money to. Would be nice if you took some $ out of that bank account and paid them back! That bank account is probably as slim as your "friends" list, if either exist. All of Speershill feared for their possessions because of you. Take a look at "K"s house - nothing but garbage all around it & across the road where you threw your trash. All your neighbors take care of their homes and have to put up with your 'pig' pen, next to them. Respect ?? You haven't a clue. Respect for 'K' ?? How many times had the police come. How many times have you hit her? How far in debt did you take her, how many family members, friends & jobs has she lost not to mention her own pride. She doesn't 'need' you!! One can live [better] in this situation, than two. She deserves better! She's a good, attractive, intellegent and hard working woman. Virtues you don't seem to own. You've trashed her, her home, her vehicles, her reptation , and her finances. You're (sad) because you two don't have a child!!!! Please, use protection - on those special occasions when you have a little energy. Think -if possible!!! - What do the two of you have to offer a child? What kind of a life could you offer? You can't even provide a roof over their head let alone food for their stomachs. God, please don't let it happen! Wonder how long it would take before you abused your child like you've done to 'K'? Remember - you DO have a temper. You've ratted on more than one person and as far as a thief - you are one !! YOU stold all the copper out of 'K's house! YOU were seen carrying it out! What about all the other copper you 'came' across? You've ripped off the electric, gas, telephone, cable, loan, morgage, and credit card companies. Yes, Larry, you are a squeeling thief. And finally the Bartholow charecteristics you mentioned are NOT yours. As far as a bastard in the family line -- take a look in the mirror! You're sad. Do yourself and everyone concerned a favor and get yourself some help. You can be a 'good' responsible person. You've got a long way to go. You're worth a lot more than what you are now. Please make your mind up to change. Only you can do it. A lot of people 'do' care for you and wish you better but they can't understand nor tolerate the bad choices you've made for your life. May God help you and direct your path. The world is full of those who found themselves at "rock bottom", looked up and changed. Try it bro. Only you can.

In response to grd's message:

RE: Looking for information
I am jumping in here. I have been reading the posts about Betty Knox. Over the years the story has changed. I've researched it a little and from early newspapers, etc., I found that Betty's soldier was her husband ( although I have doubts they actually were ever married) a deserter from the British Army. He was from Virginia and ended up in Greenbriar with Betty. He hid in the woods until George Washington was elected President and then became a pillar of the community and came out of hiding. The reason Betty drove the oxen was because he had to stay hidden in fear of being found by the British. He cleared the land for the farm and raised corn and hogs. It is true that the skeleton of the oxen was found tied to a tree at what is now called Betty Knox Park but the events actually took place a hundred years before. It was in 1878 that Betty's trips stopped. You can refer to the Daily Courier Aug 9, 1919, page 1 and July 27, 1921 for info. In 1932, a man by the name of William Forrest, from Somerset, KY wrote the story again and claimed he was their kin but in researching the story further, I am thinking he went forward about 100 years to make the story fit into his family. Since that writing, the newer dates have been used. Tucker Run is supposed to run through the home place and some refer to the area as Tucker Valley but the newspaper claims it was in Greenbriar. Oliver Martin of near Rippling Water retold the story using the 1800 dates too but I can't remember what year I found his article in the newspaper. Earlier papers state it was during the Revolutionary War 1775 - 1783. George Washington was elected President in 1789.

In response to Gamelands51's message:

RE: Looking for information
Hi Just Me, You know the area well enough to understand her homeplace location. If you know where Tharp Knob is located in the Kentuck picnic area, you are real close to the old home foundation. If you are standing on the ballfield "pitchers mound facing homeplate". Look to your right, you will see three huge pine tree's just inside the woods. Thats it. Last summer I found some amazing artifacts there from that era. One was a huge broad axe head, a couple sleigh bells and some old Indian Head coins. You are also leaning towards what I feel about her last name. I have looked at many records and have come up with a (Betty Tharp)...Hence the name Tharp Knob. Interesting. Another name I came across was a Betty Knaux,sometimes its spelled Knauxe. I am loking into that name now.

In response to sad's message:

puppy
anyone out there know of a family or person saling or getting rid of little puppys they must come from a small breed and be short haired or need of grooming thanks

In response to sad's message:

puppy
anyone out there know of a family or person saling or getting rid of little puppys they must come from a small breed and be short haired or need of grooming thanks

In response to CWR's message:

RE: Looking for information
Gamelands51, I have a few books that list familys- jobs -credits and phones numbers for Fayette County. Most of the books came from the family home of The "Betters." They being local business owners and political members for as far back as 1890's keep a nice libery.We(my wife &I) have been researching our family(s) for about 5 years. We came across so much but nothing we need for our tree. So if I can be of any help please feel free to email me or reply here. I am also related to a "Thorpe" throu married, they are I believe from the mountain area. I believe they have done research also.
CWR

In response to Risk's message:

RE: Need some help
Hmmmm...renting from Pechins? Will the rats be your roommates? But it would probably be a lot better than renting off the other Dunbar crook...Tristani.