In response to Mountain Man 's message:

RE: Not sure but very interested
Ohioplye park is free and beautiful. Lots of camping places. A real nice spot is Benner's Campgrounds. Has a pool, entertainment, showers-but call the park and they can give you info. Also, put something on the Uniontown site and I'm sure you will get some better information.

Also, try Laurel Highlands Tourism and Yogi Bear Park.

In response to Lynne 's message:

Not sure but very interested
Not sure if this is where i would post a question to ask about prices of things or specific rules, but my friend lives in PA and I am making a trip down to see him from WI and we were looking for things to do. We were wondering if there is an admission price for the park in general or if we are able to just go and spend a day there hiking and looking at everything. Also, we were curious about camping prices for just us 2 to stay there overnight either in a cabin or with a tent and sleeping bags, we are not picky to either one.
If anyone can help us out that would be wonderful.
Thank you!

Ohioplye park is free and beautiful. Lots of camping places. A real nice spot is Benner's Campgrounds. Has a pool, entertainment, showers-but call the park and they can give you info. Also, put something on the Uniontown site and I'm sure you will get some better information.

Not sure if this is where i would post a question to ask about prices of things or specific rules, but my friend lives in PA and I am making a trip down to see him from WI and we were looking for things to do. We were wondering if there is an admission price for the park in general or if we are able to just go and spend a day there hiking and looking at everything. Also, we were curious about camping prices for just us 2 to stay there overnight either in a cabin or with a tent and sleeping bags, we are not picky to either one.
If anyone can help us out that would be wonderful.
Thank you!

Call Bob Foltz today to ask if its true that the editor and publisher of the Herald-Standard apologized in person to all employees Monday for the editor's wife running as a candidate for Uniontown magistrate last month. Some employees reportedly were upset and complained to the owners of the newspaper. The owners required the editor and publisher, according to rumors, to apologize to the employees. True or false?

In response to delta_one 's message:

RE: SU Election
Greed? LOL! Surely, you jest, Nora! You said it yourself, "with the kind of money he makes" ... You were all HOT over Larry's "platform", so was he offering to donate his township supervisor salary back to the township? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Heck, noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! Sleazeball, yes, that makes him a sleazeball as well. Tell me, Nora, I haven't seen anyone on here come to his defense like you have. Is there a "realtionship" thing going on here? Or did he promise you a job somewhere? Notwithstanding, South Union Township voters don't seem to have a very good opinion of him, a LARGE MAJORITY of them. You really bought into that "platform" line of equine scatology, didn't you? That is sleazeball tactics, and Larry Rabbit has been practicing it for years.

You did not answer my question.

Do you even know Larry Roberts? Have you ever met him personally? Have you ever even been to one of his offices? The answer is probably "no" to all the above.

I've known Larry Rabbitt Roberts and his family for many years and I know that he is an honorable person not deserving of your unwarranted remarks.
br You are a hateful rumormonger without any evidence of wrongdoing by Larry whatsoever. Maybe it's his personal successes that irritate you so much.

In response to Nora 's message:

RE: SU Election
And whqt is it specifically that makes him a greedy sleezball?

I really grow tired of people on this web site making general statements and false allegations about people that cannot be documented or proven.
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Greed? LOL! Surely, you jest, Nora! You said it yourself, "with the kind of money he makes" ... You were all HOT over Larry's "platform", so was he offering to donate his township supervisor salary back to the township? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Heck, noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! Sleazeball, yes, that makes him a sleazeball as well. Tell me, Nora, I haven't seen anyone on here come to his defense like you have. Is there a "realtionship" thing going on here? Or did he promise you a job somewhere? Notwithstanding, South Union Township voters don't seem to have a very good opinion of him, a LARGE MAJORITY of them. You really bought into that "platform" line of equine scatology, didn't you? That is sleazeball tactics, and Larry Rabbit has been practicing it for years.

In response to delta_one 's message:

RE: SU Election
I'm surprised to see you sink to that level of debate, Nora. What is "obvious" to you that I have a "personal issue?" I say Larry Roberts is greedy and a sleazeball and that his political career is finished. I am simply exercising my First Amendment rights to political opinion (be default) and free speech. QUOTE: As far as Larry Roberts goes, I suspect he is pleased that he will not have to join the den of theives again. With the kind of money he makes, he certainly does not need a political job and I do not understand why he even put his name in the hat to run for office. UN-QUOTE - Larry Roberts is anything but pleased to be a LOSER, Nora. C'mon, who are you trying to kid here? He won't have to join the "den of theives?" And whom, pray tell, are you referring to there? You try and make him sound like a rose among thorns. If there is a "personal issue" here, Nora, it is yours and not mine. As far as "why he even put his name in the hat" again with "the kind of money" he makes, we get back to my original assertion that Roberts is a power-hungry, greed-driven sleazeball. Now, you may perhaps disagree with the "sleazeball" part of my assertion, but I am afraid the other two adjectives - "power-hungry and greed-driven" - will stick like glue. And your post has only reinforced those assertions, although I am sure you hardly intended for it to.

And whqt is it specifically that makes him a greedy sleezball?

I really grow tired of people on this web site making general statements and false allegations about people that cannot be documented or proven.
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In response to Ray 's message:

The One
Another year has gone by. Mahoney got another pay raise and he has not had a single Bill passed into law yet.

Does anyone know what our Representative has done for us?

He has done for you what about every other office holder down there has done for you. He has ALLOWED you to put him right back in office again. He has ALLOWED you once more not to run anyone credible against him. And he has ALLOWED you to watch relatively passively while he takes care of his friends and family and ignores what he should be doing. For starters ...

In response to Nora 's message:

RE: SU Election
You obviously have some personal issues that should not be discussed here and your language leaves a lot to be desired.

As far as Larry Roberts goes, I suspect he is pleased that he will not have to join the den of theives again. With the kind of money he makes, he certainly does not need a political job and I do not understand why he even put his name in the hat to run for office.

Maybe he has personal issues that drives him too.

I'm surprised to see you sink to that level of debate, Nora. What is "obvious" to you that I have a "personal issue?" I say Larry Roberts is greedy and a sleazeball and that his political career is finished. I am simply exercising my First Amendment rights to political opinion (be default) and free speech. QUOTE: As far as Larry Roberts goes, I suspect he is pleased that he will not have to join the den of theives again. With the kind of money he makes, he certainly does not need a political job and I do not understand why he even put his name in the hat to run for office. UN-QUOTE - Larry Roberts is anything but pleased to be a LOSER, Nora. C'mon, who are you trying to kid here? He won't have to join the "den of theives?" And whom, pray tell, are you referring to there? You try and make him sound like a rose among thorns. If there is a "personal issue" here, Nora, it is yours and not mine. As far as "why he even put his name in the hat" again with "the kind of money" he makes, we get back to my original assertion that Roberts is a power-hungry, greed-driven sleazeball. Now, you may perhaps disagree with the "sleazeball" part of my assertion, but I am afraid the other two adjectives - "power-hungry and greed-driven" - will stick like glue. And your post has only reinforced those assertions, although I am sure you hardly intended for it to.

Another year has gone by. Mahoney got another pay raise and he has not had a single Bill passed into law yet.

Does anyone know what our Representative has done for us?

In response to delta_one 's message:

RE: SU Election
I must say, Nora, that I am a little taken aback by the term "windy" - especially from someone who so adamantly supports Larry Roberts (but them again, I guess there is a difference between one being "windy" and someone who "blows a lot of smoke :-) We can agree to disagree, Nora. As far as me "knowing" Larry and his family and what the HS has printed about him, there is a lot they haven't printed (and/or have never acknowledged and/or turned a blind eye to) going back to Larry (and his UMWA brother's) time in New Salem and Larry's runs for Fayette County Commissioner. The fact of the matter is that the voters of South Union also apparently know Larry all too well, and far exceeded my predicted trouncing of a 2 to 1 margin in favor of Schiffbauer. And I was elated to hear there are still large pockets of sanity down there. You are evidently one of those people whom Larry still tells what he thinks you want to hear - and is still successfully doing so. How well do I know him and his family? Well enough, I'd venture to say :-) Well enough to tell you that I predict his political career is terminally over, and that he's cemented the ruin of the political careers of his son(s) as well. Greed and sleaziness have their political limits, even in a place like Fayette County. Don't worry though, Mahoney will get his come-uppance, too. But if you want a history lesson about "political come-backs" in Fayette County, you need go no further back than the spectacularly lackluster (and ultimately vile) career path of one Susie Teslovich. Greed and sleaze can be a nasty business indeed.

You obviously have some personal issues that should not be discussed here and your language leaves a lot to be desired.

As far as Larry Roberts goes, I suspect he is pleased that he will not have to join the den of theives again. With the kind of money he makes, he certainly does not need a political job and I do not understand why he even put his name in the hat to run for office.

Maybe he has personal issues that drives him too.

In response to Nora 's message:

RE: SU Election
You are just too windy for me.

I must say though that you do seem to be quite intelligent and well informed about a lot of things. And I must agree with most of what you write.

On the Larry Roberts issue, you are just plain wrong but I do not wish to engage since you refuse to accept reality. Do you know Mr. Roberts or any of the Roberts family personally?

If you did you would know that you are doing them an injustice by suggesting that any of the allegations made by his opponents and printed by the HS were even close to being true. In fact, it makes yo look really bad to be spreading false rumors about someone you probably do not even know.

In an attempt to be more succinct, Nora, I will try it this way: The Rabbit is roasted and toasted, it's time to stick a fork in him :-) Regardless of our diagreement over the Rabbit/Roberts issue, you will find I am pretty much an Equal Opportunity Basher. When sleazeballs get elected and start sucking off the taxpayers' money, they are nothing more than "fair game" in my book, i.e., Rabbits, Hoggs, Weasels, Doofuses, Birdbrains - and it's Open Season any day of the week :-)

In response to Nora 's message:

RE: SU Election
You are just too windy for me.

I must say though that you do seem to be quite intelligent and well informed about a lot of things. And I must agree with most of what you write.

On the Larry Roberts issue, you are just plain wrong but I do not wish to engage since you refuse to accept reality. Do you know Mr. Roberts or any of the Roberts family personally?

If you did you would know that you are doing them an injustice by suggesting that any of the allegations made by his opponents and printed by the HS were even close to being true. In fact, it makes yo look really bad to be spreading false rumors about someone you probably do not even know.

I must say, Nora, that I am a little taken aback by the term "windy" - especially from someone who so adamantly supports Larry Roberts (but them again, I guess there is a difference between one being "windy" and someone who "blows a lot of smoke :-) We can agree to disagree, Nora. As far as me "knowing" Larry and his family and what the HS has printed about him, there is a lot they haven't printed (and/or have never acknowledged and/or turned a blind eye to) going back to Larry (and his UMWA brother's) time in New Salem and Larry's runs for Fayette County Commissioner. The fact of the matter is that the voters of South Union also apparently know Larry all too well, and far exceeded my predicted trouncing of a 2 to 1 margin in favor of Schiffbauer. And I was elated to hear there are still large pockets of sanity down there. You are evidently one of those people whom Larry still tells what he thinks you want to hear - and is still successfully doing so. How well do I know him and his family? Well enough, I'd venture to say :-) Well enough to tell you that I predict his political career is terminally over, and that he's cemented the ruin of the political careers of his son(s) as well. Greed and sleaziness have their political limits, even in a place like Fayette County. Don't worry though, Mahoney will get his come-uppance, too. But if you want a history lesson about "political come-backs" in Fayette County, you need go no further back than the spectacularly lackluster (and ultimately vile) career path of one Susie Teslovich. Greed and sleaze can be a nasty business indeed.

In response to delta_one 's message:

RE: SU Election
Nora, Nora Nora! Don't you want to come out and play? :->

You are just too windy for me.

I must say though that you do seem to be quite intelligent and well informed about a lot of things. And I must agree with most of what you write.

On the Larry Roberts issue, you are just plain wrong but I do not wish to engage since you refuse to accept reality. Do you know Mr. Roberts or any of the Roberts family personally?

If you did you would know that you are doing them an injustice by suggesting that any of the allegations made by his opponents and printed by the HS were even close to being true. In fact, it makes yo look really bad to be spreading false rumors about someone you probably do not even know.

In response to Nora 's message:

SU Election
Supervisor Shiffbauer sent out a mass mailing saying Larry Roberts has engaged in gutter politics because Roberts mentioned Shiffbauer’s letter to the federal court praising a convicted felon with 13 prior arrests.

Shiffbauer said it was a compassionate thing to do. At least Shiffbauer did not deny he wrote the letter. In fact he said he was proud to do so and when questioned by the media about it he said he would do it again.

Since Larry Roberts simply reminded the voters of South Union about the letter Shiffbauer wrote which he said he was proud of, I do not think that amounts to gutter politics.

Shiffbauer has no platform and Roberts does.

Roberts favors the elimination of property tax, local police protection, anti nepotism, no school consolidation and no halfway houses in the township. Shiffbauer is in total opposition with Larry’s platform.

It’s time for a change. Shiffbauer has had a free ride for too long and needs to be replaced. Vote for Roberts.

Nora, Nora Nora! Don't you want to come out and play? :->

Okay, in a few hours you will all be voting (hopefully) and in another 24 hours it will be all over except for the screaming and crying. Ahhhh! Fayette County politics, would there was a way it could be bottled and placed in the Smithsonian Institution! :-) What a trip down old memory lane this has been for me! Now, remember that boondogle up in the mountains? The "shovel-ready" project the then-commissioners had on the shelf and Jimmy Carter ante-ed up the money for after he was elected? Whatever happened to the Amphitheater? Did they sell it to Joe Hardy or have they strip-mined that place? Talk about a money hole! Just curious ...

In response to Nora 's message:

SU Election
Supervisor Shiffbauer sent out a mass mailing saying Larry Roberts has engaged in gutter politics because Roberts mentioned Shiffbauer’s letter to the federal court praising a convicted felon with 13 prior arrests.

Shiffbauer said it was a compassionate thing to do. At least Shiffbauer did not deny he wrote the letter. In fact he said he was proud to do so and when questioned by the media about it he said he would do it again.

Since Larry Roberts simply reminded the voters of South Union about the letter Shiffbauer wrote which he said he was proud of, I do not think that amounts to gutter politics.

Shiffbauer has no platform and Roberts does.

Roberts favors the elimination of property tax, local police protection, anti nepotism, no school consolidation and no halfway houses in the township. Shiffbauer is in total opposition with Larry’s platform.

It’s time for a change. Shiffbauer has had a free ride for too long and needs to be replaced. Vote for Roberts.

"gutter politics" is in the eye of the beholder. "gutter politics" is also not only what is being printed publicly, but what is being said behind the scenes. That letter however has nothing concrete to do with running a township the size of South Union. Schiffbauer doesn't need a platform, his past work in the township speaks for itself. Why do you believe he has gotten a "free ride"? If you want to give someone a "free ride," by all means, elect Larry and see what happens :-) I think the township will hold together, and predict Schiffbauer 2 to 1. There are too many people in South Union wise to what Larry Roberts is really all about (I used to live there, I know).

In response to delta_one 's message:

The more things "change" ...
I left Fayette County nearly 15 years ago and came across this discussion group "accidently" in a web search on another topic. I could not believe my eyes, I have been reading different threads for several hours now and cannot believe what I am seeing! Ths more things change, the more they remain the same! Larry Roberts running for township supervisor??? The Fikes, Gearing, are there any new names in politics there at all??? What is the infamous Cavanaugh brothers up to these days? Do you mean to tell me there is an election cycle coming up and neither one of them is running for anything? Bob Foltz is still ALIVE?????????? The Herald Standard has been suspected of being in bed with the Fayette County political powers-that-be since time began. One of their former reporters, Ron Bascone (sp?) was awarded a job as PennDOT PR guy years ago (after working most of his life as a HS reporter). It is hard to believe there are people in this discussion who are shocked and/or outraged that that snake-in-the-grass Sunyak would be taken on as a high-salaried employee with Mahoney!! How fitting!! And how in keeping with the old traditions. Sunyak, years ago, "created" the Cavanaughs, if anyone remembers. They were the "second coming" in Fayette County politics, long before the present WH resident hit the scenes. The precursor of "community organizers": and tell me, what have any of these people "organized" that were not of a direct benefit to them? I would suggest some of you look back in history, back to the 1960s and beyond at least, to find that there is a vicious cycle of poverty and other social ills in Fayette County, not only stemming from a chronically bad economy, but from people believing that knowing someone with some "political pull" can help them better than they can help themselves. The only real maverick in Fayette County in years (decades) has been Autumn Fike, who fought the powers-that-be and really and truly looked out for those who cold not look out for themselves (animals) and for which she was paid very little and at times, placed herself at great risk. The rest of these people (the great majority) are nothing more than charletans whose interests go no further than attaining or maintaining a "lifestyle" to which they aspire to or have become accustomed. When is the last time any of them ever helped somone truly in need? Look beyond the "image" and the gloosy brochures. See what they interests are in life, see where they live and what style of life they lead. Then ask yourself, who are they really and truly looking out for? Nine out of ten times, the answer will be themselves. You, the voters, are allowing and condoning all these little "political dynasties" to be created that if they benefit you, the voter, it will only be as an afterthought or even coincidence. Vernon, Vicites, the Blairs ... Have you allowed that little weasel Vicites to remain in power? If so, shame on you! Power yields money and favors owed. Look at school board members. Why do some of these people spend thousands of dollars on a campaign for a job that pays nothing? Or does it? Under the table where prying eyes cannot see? Consolidation and building "better" schools has done little to nothing for the stateof education in this country. The children's rel needs get lost in all the highly-expensive feasibility studies. Fayette County is like a twilight zone, the more things change, the more they remain the same. The names may sometimes even change, but the politics are all the same, and have been for decades. And until there are more people like Autumn Fike, with grit and determination and the fortitude to get knocked down a few times and get right back up again - and really and truly look out for those who cannot help themselves - nothing will ever change there.

Supervisor Shiffbauer sent out a mass mailing saying Larry Roberts has engaged in gutter politics because Roberts mentioned Shiffbauer’s letter to the federal court praising a convicted felon with 13 prior arrests.

Shiffbauer said it was a compassionate thing to do. At least Shiffbauer did not deny he wrote the letter. In fact he said he was proud to do so and when questioned by the media about it he said he would do it again.

Since Larry Roberts simply reminded the voters of South Union about the letter Shiffbauer wrote which he said he was proud of, I do not think that amounts to gutter politics.

Shiffbauer has no platform and Roberts does.

Roberts favors the elimination of property tax, local police protection, anti nepotism, no school consolidation and no halfway houses in the township. Shiffbauer is in total opposition with Larry’s platform.

It’s time for a change. Shiffbauer has had a free ride for too long and needs to be replaced. Vote for Roberts.

I left Fayette County nearly 15 years ago and came across this discussion group "accidently" in a web search on another topic. I could not believe my eyes, I have been reading different threads for several hours now and cannot believe what I am seeing! Ths more things change, the more they remain the same! Larry Roberts running for township supervisor??? The Fikes, Gearing, are there any new names in politics there at all??? What is the infamous Cavanaugh brothers up to these days? Do you mean to tell me there is an election cycle coming up and neither one of them is running for anything? Bob Foltz is still ALIVE?????????? The Herald Standard has been suspected of being in bed with the Fayette County political powers-that-be since time began. One of their former reporters, Ron Bascone (sp?) was awarded a job as PennDOT PR guy years ago (after working most of his life as a HS reporter). It is hard to believe there are people in this discussion who are shocked and/or outraged that that snake-in-the-grass Sunyak would be taken on as a high-salaried employee with Mahoney!! How fitting!! And how in keeping with the old traditions. Sunyak, years ago, "created" the Cavanaughs, if anyone remembers. They were the "second coming" in Fayette County politics, long before the present WH resident hit the scenes. The precursor of "community organizers": and tell me, what have any of these people "organized" that were not of a direct benefit to them? I would suggest some of you look back in history, back to the 1960s and beyond at least, to find that there is a vicious cycle of poverty and other social ills in Fayette County, not only stemming from a chronically bad economy, but from people believing that knowing someone with some "political pull" can help them better than they can help themselves. The only real maverick in Fayette County in years (decades) has been Autumn Fike, who fought the powers-that-be and really and truly looked out for those who cold not look out for themselves (animals) and for which she was paid very little and at times, placed herself at great risk. The rest of these people (the great majority) are nothing more than charletans whose interests go no further than attaining or maintaining a "lifestyle" to which they aspire to or have become accustomed. When is the last time any of them ever helped somone truly in need? Look beyond the "image" and the gloosy brochures. See what they interests are in life, see where they live and what style of life they lead. Then ask yourself, who are they really and truly looking out for? Nine out of ten times, the answer will be themselves. You, the voters, are allowing and condoning all these little "political dynasties" to be created that if they benefit you, the voter, it will only be as an afterthought or even coincidence. Vernon, Vicites, the Blairs ... Have you allowed that little weasel Vicites to remain in power? If so, shame on you! Power yields money and favors owed. Look at school board members. Why do some of these people spend thousands of dollars on a campaign for a job that pays nothing? Or does it? Under the table where prying eyes cannot see? Consolidation and building "better" schools has done little to nothing for the stateof education in this country. The children's rel needs get lost in all the highly-expensive feasibility studies. Fayette County is like a twilight zone, the more things change, the more they remain the same. The names may sometimes even change, but the politics are all the same, and have been for decades. And until there are more people like Autumn Fike, with grit and determination and the fortitude to get knocked down a few times and get right back up again - and really and truly look out for those who cannot help themselves - nothing will ever change there.

Voters who have and are concerned about children in the Uniontown Area School District should vote against members William Rittenhouse and Lloyd Williams because they are patsies for the 3 member citizen group of Pete Malik and Ralph and Jerrie Mazza. By the way Ms Mazza I heard you on the radio today and what you said was nothing but false information. Teachers are supporting candidates Susan Clay, Dorthy Grahek, Harry Kaufman and Terry Dawson. They volunteered money and their services to these candidates. Get your information correct. Also remember you stopped the first building project and it has cost the taxpayer a tremondous amount of money. Please I'm urging voters every where to stop this group and their candidates Rittenhouse and Williams.